Parley with Barley ??

 

Shalom Rabbi Tom:

 
Was this message sent to me??  I never received it before seeing it featured in Rabbi Moshe's e-letter :-)  I'm of course happy to dialogue with you on this important issue.  I have not found any evidence in Torah for the equinox theory, and in fact find it contrary to Torah, as following it requires disobeying pashat Mitzwot.
 
You might wish to first read two articles I did on this subject:
 
Pasach For The Perplexed http://www.tushiyah.org/pasachfortheperplexed.html
When Should You Pasach (sic) http://www.tushiyah.org/pasach2.html
 
A couple of points on what you mention...
 
 
1.  ABIB does NOT mean "green ears", that is 400 year old scholarship.  The first article above describes what abib is biblically - a specific stage in crop development which can be well parameterised from Torah narrative.  Abib does not mean "spring" either.
 
Although ABIB has been TAKEN to mean 'spring' in later Hebrew, Biblically speaking, it can ONLY refer to a condition of the barley - ha sh'orah abib - the barley WAS abib (Shemot 9:31)The root of the word is ABAB, an ancient verbal form of 'to be tender'.  It can only - in Biblical terms - refer to a crop condition, not a season of the year.  One could hardly read "the barley was spring" here.  See also Wayikra 2:14 where it is again a condition of the barley. 
 
It occurs an additional 6 times, and every one of them is in the form CHODESH HA ABIB.  Chodesh is the renewal of the moon, and by extension 'month', yet one can not have "month of spring" with Chodesh in a singular form as spring has 3 months by definition.  Nor can one read "the month where it is spring" as again this requires the plural.  Like CHODESH inherently means "the renewal", and refers to a specific state of the YERACH, and only by extension means "month", ABIB is a specific crop state, which by extension has come to mean "spring" - the time of year when that state occurs.
 
 
2.  You are NOT completely correct about translating SHAMAR as 'keep'.  In Dabarim 16:1, it is in a Qal Infinitive tense, which per Strong's that you cite CAN definitely include the meaning of observe:
1) to keep, guard, observe, give heed
a) (Qal)
1) to keep, have charge of
2) to keep, guard, keep watch and ward, protect, save life
a) watch, watchman (participle)
3) to watch for, wait for
4) to watch, observe
5) to keep, retain, treasure up (in memory)
6) to keep (within bounds), restrain
7) to observe, celebrate, keep (sabbath or covenant or commands), perform (vow)
8) to keep, preserve, protect
9) to keep, reserve
The problem here is that the word can have various nuances of meaning in coming across to English.  To SHAMAR ET CHODESH HAABIB with the direct object pointer can most definitely imply observation by sight, keeping, guarding, celebrating, ALL of these things at the SAME time.  One meaning is not exclusionary to another.
 
The key here is in first understanding a correct definition of abib, and then understanding that the Chodesh haAbib is the crescent moon at which the Barley is abib, and there will only EVER be one of these per year.  Next Chodesh (April) there will be NO abib anywhere in Yisrael, and it can absolutely NOT be the Chodesh haAbib anymore than 25 December can be the birthday of Y'shua :-)  Thus, to postpone the year to next month will require disobeying the Mitswot to make the Chodesh haAbib the first Chodesh of the year.
 
 
3.  As to the Karaites, it is not fair to say that anyone following the Chodesh haAbib is "following the Karaites" - no, we are following TORAH.  The Karaites also happen to agree on this point and are following Torah WITH us, not 'leading' us as is implied subtly by such improper diction.  The Karaites are wrong about Moshiach to be sure, but so are the Rabinics who follow the last Sanhedrin and deny Y'shua.  Nehemiah Gordon is a friend of mine, and I respect him as a fellow scholar, even though we do not agree on everything.  I agree with him here because Torah agrees with him.
 
 
4.  Rabbi Moshe (??) at the end discusses following Talmud.  It is not following Talmud to recognise such as a source of historical reporting.  These and other early sources, along with archaeology,  are an invaluable tool in establishing historic fact.  The issue comes when one takes the TEACHINGS of the Talmud to be DOCTRINE on par with or superseding Torah, such is a TOTALLY different matter than using it in a historical context.
 
 
5.  Rabbi Moshe has rested his case on two INCOMPATIBLE arguments -
 
            A.  The last Sanhedrin is binding authority on us for halachic practice.
            B.  The first month must be the Chodesh after the vernal equinox.
 
I am still curious as to when this system observed the first month in the years 2002 and 1999 gregorian.  As I document in the response to his article, in both of these years one had to choose A or B and could not have both under this theory.  So, if there is to be additional evidence presented as to the vernal equinox, then point A must be entirely withdrawn as inapplicable as you can't follow the equinox and the last Sanhedrin at the same time.
 
 
So, in short, I'm open to discussion on this from a scriptural basis, and have laid out such in the prior articles extensively, with some additional clarification here.  If you or Rabbi Moshe feel that the equinox has additional scriptural support, please present such for consideration.  This process has, I think, helped a lot of people examine many facets of the Mitswot of Pasach - a very worthy endeavour, and I thank you for your kind spirit in this regard.
 
Shalom w'Baraka,
 
Rav. David Pollina
Rav. David Pollina
 
 
 
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From UONYC Board member Rabbi Tom Mitchell to another rabbi who still believes in the Karaite's barley theory, followed by some comments by Rabbi Moshe Yoseph Koniuchowsky.
Please address any comments to Rabbi Tom at: tmitchell@tribweb.com
 
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Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 10:29 AM
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Subject: Calendar

YHWH Shalom D--------------:
 I read with great interest your e-mail to Rabbi Moshe regarding the calendar issue. I too have some questions regarding this issue.
 
Many people are following the Karaites in searching for the green ears of barley (now the Karaites are another issue I won't get into right now). So here are just a few of the questions I have:
There is not one single command (mitzvah) in Scripture telling us to search for green ears, so why do some insist on doing it? No doubt this practice is due to a misapplication of Deut. 16, "Observe the month of Aviv (Green Ears..."  I understand that many interpret "Observe" as meaning "look for." However, If we check a simple reference tool such as a Strong's concordance, we find that "observe" in this verse is the Hebrew word "shomer," meaning to guard. When we keep Shabbat properly we are called a "Shomer Shabbat," a "Guardian of the Sabbath." We don't have to "look" for the Sabbath in order to keep it. We should know when the Shabbat begins and ends in our respective locale. So if it's cloudy, we don't need to watch for sunset, we should know when the sun is due to set and begin Shabbat accordingly. We are also urged to "observe" Yahweh's Torah. does this mean we have to go out somewhere and "look" for it? The Torah must be in our hearts and minds. My other question is, why is there not one single instance recorded anywhere in the Bible of anyone going out on a quest to inspect green ears of barley?
 
As for the wearing of the Kippah, I wonder if you have really given this issue a fair shake. Rabbi Koniuchowsky has a three-tape series, "A Lost Priestly Tool," that I would urge you to obtain and listen to before you make up your mind. Also, Rabbi Ed Nydle has a publication, "Headcoverings for Messianic Men," that you should read at least once.
As believers I feel it is our obligation to examine the evidence -- all the evidence, not just what we want to see.
 
Many years (decades) ago I rejected the Rabbinic calendar in favor of the visible new moon calendar. At the same time I began believing that we should search for green ears. After more than 20 years of persisting in these beliefs, I restudied the issues with an open heart and mind. I came to the conclusion that I was wrong and therefore I changed.
Many will accuse us of "following man" when we follow the Rabbinic calendar. Well and good. However, the same people turn around and blindly follow the Karaites to search for green ears. Are they not following man too? Let's make no bones about the Karaites. Contrary to what they may say, they are not our friends. Their website is full of anti-Messiah writings of some of the most vicious kind.
 
Many well intentioned Messianic or Nazarene Israelite believe has been swayed by Karaite doctrine to deny that Yahshua is the Messiah of all Israel and that we obtain the ultimate forgiveness for our sins through His blood atonement. Yet not one single Karaite that I know of has embraced the Messiah. The Karaite agenda is to convert every single one of us away from our belief in Messiah and therefore, in my opinion, it is a demonic agenda. That's just one of many reasons I am not the least bit impressed with people like Nehemiah Gordon or any so-called Messianics who follow him. Please reconsider your rejection of the things you mention in you e-mail to Rabbi Moshe and for the sake of all truth and righteousness, re-examine the  evidence and give it all a fair shake.
 
May Almighty Yahweh bless you with shalom and ahavah b'Shem Yahshua Meshikaynu as you seek to serve him and study to show yourself approved, a workman rightly dividing the truth and one who will not be put to shame.
Respectfully yours,
Rabbi Tom Mitchell
Union Board member    

T. Mitchell


-From Rabbi Moshe: Many through the years have asked us (YATI) for help and looked to us for assistance on feast keeping. Not that we are infallible, or even want to be seen as such in this area since it is fluid and highly debatable, but we do want to be more Torah based but still hold to the essential principles of the Jewish calendar. So.............coming soon is a list of feasts from now until 2035 based on Aviv being the first molad, or new birthed moon after the Spring Equinox, without any rabbinical postponements, as we try and establish a Torah based schedule....................Having said that, this service will be for those who have specifically asked for guidance. But all local UONYC groups are free to be led by their own inward conviction and my own attempts to bring more clarity to this is a personal attempt and should not be seen as representing the UONYC or any of its independent member affiliates........Stay tuned!
 
-Coming very soon I will send you Biblical proof of the vernal equinox factor in calculating/observing ALL the moadim/feasts. Those who tell you that the Spring Equinox is not in scripture, are either non Hebrew speakers, or are simply misled following a "party line." Using the sun and the moon according to Genesis 1:14 , is no more a manifestation of a "pagan sun worshipping" practice, then chewing gum made by pagans, makes one a pagan!
 
-I will provide at least 4 Torah references to the Spring Equinox. Moreover it is of the HIGHEST and most ARROGANT order to criticize the rabbis and all of the Talmud (major parts of which i also have problems with), and then turn around as do the Karaites and use the very Talmud they mock to "prove" their point of observation in the 1st century. Why would a group that rejects any validity whatsoever to the Talmud, use it as prima fascia evidence of barley searches and new moon sightings? As Rabbi Tom mentions above, were they true to their own namesake, Karaite, meaning "scriptural only literalist," why would they feel the need to resort to "tradition" to prove 1st century barley finding methods?
 
The reason they contradict themselves is as plain as day; it is because they know as well as Rabbi Moshe does, and as well as you do, that there is no verse commanding, or instructing how barley is to be found, or considered. The only verse in Exodus 13:4 cannot be superimposed on Exodus 12:2 and moreover Aviv does not mean (or is not limited to) "ripened barley," but can mean any stage in the barley's development, as I will also document soon. So if one follows their own doctrine being a "who cares what the rabbis and the Talmud say," it is irony of the highest order that they turn right around and resort to ..guess what?....THE TALMUD and the TESTIMONY OF THE RABBIS  to make their ONLY case! Factor that into the sad fact that many Nazarene Yisraelites who deny Yahshua all together wind up as Karaites after being tripped up by the Karaites, should make one embrace their theology with great trepidation and inward reflection. Selah!